So the other night I was talking to another couponer about how coupons can be a lifesaver for people who are struggling to make ends meet which evolved into a discussion on food stamps and other social service programs that assist people with their nutritional needs. We were debating whether or not smart shopping courses should be taught to people receiving that type of assistance. And what I mean by “smart shopping” courses would be any class that focuses on getting the most bang from the assistance buck by teaching people how to use coupons to stretch that money and how to shop sales by formulating healthy meals around sale items.
Here’s my opinion for what it’s worth. If someone had taught me fifteen years ago how to shop smarter I’d have a whole lot more money in the bank today. I would have appreciated the information and most likely would have made some serious changes in my shopping habits. While I understand that not all people would take advantage of the newly taught skills, at least they would be exposed to it and maybe make them more aware of better ways to spend their food stamp dollars.
What do you think? Should social service agencies require these types of courses in order for people to receive aid? Keep in mind that I want this to be an exchange of thoughts, not a firestorm of heated debate. I think this is an interesting topic and would love to hear your opinion, but let’s keep it civil, alrighty?
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I think they would benefit from this type of information. But,I have a cousin who is on food stamps. I talked to her about it once and she has to personally pay the tax on the savings, which she says she can’t afford.
Great idea! What a benefit that would be to people in need. Not only would they be able to stretch their dollars, but it could also be help for them to stand on their on feet again. I would very much support the effort to teach coupon shopping ways to people in need. Good Coupon Goddess!
What a great idea! I think offering this type of educational course would be helpful to anyone-not just folks on assistance. Making it mandatory for people getting aid may be a bit more tricky, but surely no one could gripe about offering this in general.
Great idea! I think anyone would benefit from the information, but this seems to be a group of people who need it most! My husband lost his job a year ago and hasn’t had anything stable since so we have greatly benefited from tracking our savings! I only spend $125 a month and we have a HUGE pantry selection and deep freezer full of food.
I think that a couponing course would be helpful but an overall nutrition course and showing what options are available in that particular area might be more useful. I know personally most of my coupons come from buying the newspaper and printing offline- extra expenses someone might not be able to afford up front. Plus, with couponing I tend to go to atleast 3 different stores a week, which might not be feasible if I had more limited resources (ie no car, more than 1 job, etc).
Heidi S, Maryland
I mostly agree with your thoughts on the subject, but here’s how I break it down. Mandatory is hard for me. I think a lot of people wind up resenting the classes or making excuses not to go. However, I think having those classes offered (even to the general public-I would LOVE to go to one as I’m only out of college a year and am still having a hard time putting cheap healthy meals together) is a great idea. Perhaps offer them to everyone, but save a certain amount of spots for people receiving benefits.
If possible (which it’s probably not because of budgets getting cut) it would be nice to offer incentives to people on food stamps to get them to come. If it was mandatory, I think that childcare would need to be provided for free (or a family friendly class!) so the classes don’t become a burden. I would hate for someone who really needs food stamps to live to be in jeapardy of losing them because they can’t find someone to watch their kids while the adult goes to class.
Just my two cents!
I don’t think it should be mandatory, but I think it should be offered as an option. I think they should also be offered coupons. Companies always put out coupons in stores, they should offer them to people on assistance as well.
Jenn S. -IL
I think this is such a great idea!! I lost my “right out of college” job a few months ago after working there for 10 years. Couponing is the only thing that is getting me through this tough time while I look for another job. I taught myself how to coupon (with great mentors like the Coupon Goddess
and it would have been great to have a program to teach me!
I’ve always thought this would be a great idea. I agree that it should not be mandatory and there would have to be some allowance for child care. Not sure how this would work. I think most people would benefit from it even though they might not take it to the level you or I do.
I think it is a great idea. You know our base actually has a mandatory Financial Class that new Airmen have to take when they get to there first base. I wish I would of had something like that. So, it’s not just people who are government assisted, but anyone really. Uh yeah I rambled, oops, point being yes they should have to do some type of FREE class before the government helps them out.
I think it would be a good thing. I have a real hard time seeing families shopping at the local convenient store using food stamps. Maybe not make it mandatory but if it helped a few families out there it would be worth it. Thanks for the giveaway. Love the pink bags;)
I think it is a great idea, but should be optional. Their are some people who recieve benefits that may not be physically capable of couponing or even physically getting to the grocery store. I previously worked in the medical field and often found many people who were “abusing” these state and federal benefits. So I don’t think they would take it seriously and would be wasting more tax dollars on education that would never be applied. Optional eductation could benefit those who truly have a desire to stretch their dollars.
Jessica (Maine)
What a wonderful debate.
As a young girl having a child at 19, I had no idea anything about coupons, my mom used them, but nothing was ever taught to me about additional savings. For a short period, I received food stamps, and there was nothing about how to get the most out of them, i.e., coupons.
Now, as an educated woman, wife and mother of 3, I can’t live without my coupons. There are so many programs out there that offer help to others in need, though not learning about coupons. There is no shame or embarrassment in using them, so I can’t figure out why the State will not “teach” or offer a class to those in need. Just think of how much more food they would be able to buy if they had coupons. They could have stockpiles like we do.
I feel strongly that in order to obtain food stamps, it would be a pre-requisite that a coupon class was taken.
I have a brother who is on food stamps and he does use coupons to get the most out of them, all thanks to me for teaching him how to really use coupons.
A program will really work, though only on those who want to learn. After the class, it is up to the person to continue to want to save and get more out of the stamps…
See, I can go on and on about this debate. I feel strongly that a class should be offered, though that is just my opinion…….
Thanks for the great question!
Tracy
I have had this thought for many years. I agree mandatory is not the way to go, as I believe you get more out of what you WANT to do as opposed to what you HAVE to do.
I teach coupon classes to friends, family and anyone who wants to learn. If only one person on assistance experienced the rewards we’ve had with coupons imagine where that could lead…..
I think you have an excellent idea. I believe you would need to have more then one class, though. That would give people the time to try out couponing and come back with questions.
I also agree that it should be optional, their benefits would go as long long way. I couldn’t live without my coupons, as a family of 7 it saves so much money.
Here’s the thing: being low income or poor is hard work, especially if you don’t have a car. Its pretty easy to be a hardcore couponer if you a) have a car, b) have access to the internet, c) have access to decent supermarkets/stores.
The problem of “food deserts” in both urban and rural communities is a very real one. With a car, its pretty easy to do this. But imagine trying to really take advantage of the available savings if you had to use public transportation, or (for a lot of us) if you knew you had to bring your kids to the supermarket with you every time. It would become a lot more daunting.
So: mandatory, no. But available – yes, absolutely. I’ll also say that if this is something a reader wanted to start that there is likely already a social services agency (perhaps the one connected with your local food back) who might be willing to host a volunteer teacher, to immediately reach the populations most in need of this type of education. But you’ll want to be highly aware of what the restrictions are on EBT (“food stamps” no longer exist, its now EBT cards as part of the SNAP program) use in your state.
I think it’s a wonderful idea. In my town, there is very few people who are not on some kind of welfare and it seems that most of them are abusing the system. When I had my second child, hubbys hours were cut to where we were barely making it. Yet we didn’t quaify for any help. I “found” coupons and that saved us. With careful planning, we went from spending $100+ on our family of 3 for one week,to spending $25 a week on our family of 4. And we’re eating the same as we were then.
If the coupon classes were offered around here, I’m not sure how many people would take advantage of it. I’ve tried to talk to other peope about couponing and they act like I’m nuts. If the classes were a pre-requisite to getting food stamps, I think that would be helpful. Then, after they at least took the class, they didn’t have to use coupons if they didn’t want to, it’s up to them. That way at least they had the option.
Wow, although I thought this would be a heated debate, most everyone has similar opinions. I have strong feelings about food stamps, but only because I only hear about people who abuse them.
I agree that a coupon course should be offered – not mandated, and promoted to people who accept food stamps. However, I understand that some recipients would not be willing to go to these courses (think of the number of strangers who turn down coupons when you offer them in the store). Some people (as a previous poster said) may not have the ability to get to the store.
At least if this type of course were offered, the people who chose to go to the course and use the tools provided would be given an opportunity to make wiser choices with their food purchases.
Great idea. I don’t think it should be mandatory. I think a basic class should be offered with perhaps a local support class offered weekly for those who want to know more, have questions or fall in love with coupons.
Deb B., MA
I agree that the idea is a good one but I don’t agree that it should be mandatory, maybe incentive based. The other commenters have already brought up some great issues, namely childcare, transportation and the ability to get coupons on-going. There would need to be sponsors and incentives (free or really cheap newspapers for a period of time, etc.) to get this going effectively.
I definetly agree with you! I wish I had learned how to use coupons a long time ago. It seemed before we were managing but always paycheck to paycheck. I feel since we have started to use coupons I shop alot smarter and I am able to save a little. I feel I am a smarter shopper now!
Yesenia S. IL
I think Heidi anCyndel make excellent points. Mandatory is tough to sell to people. Then it becomes one more thing they have to do. That’s hard when people are already overwhelmed with everyday life. I think that drawing people into the class with the promise of coupons and how to use them wisely would be great.
I actually found myself wondering (as I waited in line behind a gal last week who bought anything she wanted-sale or not- and the paid with an assistance card) if you could use coupons with the assistance programs??? I assume so- and if you could WOW! what you could buy for a family with the outrageous (in my opinion) amounts of money a family of 4-5 people get. Can you imagine what all could be purchased with $700 a month PLUS using sales and coupons??? I’m sure it would blow most people away. I know we have more than we need on way less of a budget than that!
This idea is great in theory, but would be nearly impossible to administer.
Personally, I think a class on money and banking should be mandatory in high school, and this would be a great component of that. If you get to kids at a time when they often start earning a small paycheck it makes more sense than after they’ve already made serious financial blunders. The later you institute something like this in someone’s life(mandatory or not), the more obstinate they will be about doing it. Pride can be a dangerous bridge to cross for some.
Offering these classes is a great idea. It gets tricky by making it mandatory for the reasons mentioned above (childcare, resentment of having to take the class). At the same time, by making it optional, I’d imagine only a few would take advantage of the offering. But by offering an incentive such as coupons for items that just about all of us use such as milk/eggs/bread, it may attract more people to the class. In a perfect world everyone would live by Maya Angelou’s quotation, “When you know better, you do better”…but we can still try!
-Tina B.
I think it would be a great idea but am with the others who do not like the mandatory idea.
Why would it be a problem if you have to bring your kids or take public transportation? I’m sorry I just don’t understand this? We’re not talking about doing epic coupon hauls right? You could easily buy the same amount of groceries you normally do but just be more particular about what you buy making sure to match sales to coupons.
I would love to see people like Mel, coupon gurus, take the role of mentor to someone in the community who would really like to learn how to use coupons. How about sharing the extra coupons, showing someone how to match them to the deals and go on a few weeks of shopping trips with them until they get the hang of it and then be there as a support person if the person needs it? This could possibly be done in connection with a shelter where the knowledge could be shared?
What’s the Chinese proverb? Give me a fish and I eat for a day. Teach me to fish and I eat for a lifetime.
carrie MA
I think this is a great idea. I can’t believe how much money I save using coupons. We are living in what seems like an “entitlement” era where people EXPECT the government to take care of them and pay their bills. Whatever happened to personal responsibility? I think by offering a class on smart shopping and finances, we would be helping these people learn a life long skill that perhaps could break the welfare cycle. I’m amazed at the amount of money people get for “food stamps”. It’s more than I ever spent a month for my family of 6 before I was using coupons. I think any kind of finance/smart shopping class should be mandatory before getting assistance. If you have time to apply for assistance, you should make time to learn how to spend that money wisely. Not everyone would end up using coupons but perhaps people could learn to shop sales and stock up on sale items. Their savings would be significant even without using the coupons. When I shop, I often try to hit the stores in the poorer sections of my town because I know those locations won’t be out stock on sale items because people living in those areas don’t shop like couponers.
I think it’s a great idea to offer these courses! I livev in Western MA, and I think a local library offers this type of course for free! There’s also a coupon box full of coupons up for grabs. A lot of people on assistance struggle because they aren’t given enough, using coupons would help many of them a lot.
I agree that these kinds of courses should be offered but not mandatory. Many will seek the knowledge if it is offered to them. Nutrition courses should be offered as well as breastfeeding assistance. Nothing mandatory but education is always the key to better living whether it be coupons, nutrition or anything else.
I think this is a great idea, but it should be optional. One thing that might present a problem to lower income people is lack of a computer and printer for printables. Also, just being able to log on to the internet daily to read the blogs and forums that give us a heads up on the best deals and coupons, makes up a huge chunk of savings. Not everyone has this luxury. But a course would still benefit people who are willing to learn.
Rachel in NJ
I think coupons classes should be offered to everyone! Underprivileged, newly weds, single parents, you name it. Coupons are a WONDERFUL way to save and even sometimes EARN money. I can’t even tell ya how many times I have been behind someone in line buying the generic brand products (which there is nothing wrong with doing that) trying to make it as cheap as possible. I’m right behind them with similar products, but I’m getting them cheaper thanks to sales and coupons. I know people would benefit from classes. Not even just about how to coupon, but also how to save your money, reduce your bills, eat healthier on a budget. All that sort of thing. We are in a recession but my family and I aren’t feeling the pain. Not because we have lots of money (which we don’t LOL), but because we have learned how to shop smart and reduce our bills. we have learned how to get discounts on EVERYTHING from clothes to our rent!
Several family members have started to coupons because they saw how much I was saving!
I think it is well worth the time and effort!
I just got back from looking at office space and one of the things I have wanted to do is offer a coupon class. So many people have asked me to show them how to use coupons and they feel overwhelmed.
I agree that the class would be a wonderful thing for families who receive assistance but should not be mandatory. I, like D, think the families should be rewarded for coming to the class. This would get them excited and potentially hooked on couponing.
I love this question. When my husband first started college, we had no money. With only one child, and being on the WlC program, I learned to coupon from my sister. She was in a similar situation and we shared ways on how to try to save money. Later we found out that we qualified for food stamps. While on food stamps, I continued to coupon and send in rebates/refunds. Those refunds/rebates provided a lot of my children’s gifts at holidays. Now my husband is an Officer in the Navy and I STILL use coupons. We had to file a lot of paperwork to get on FS, go in at different intervals, provide bank acct statements etc. I don’t think it would be impossible to make it mandatory. My thoughts are that there are 2 kinds of people on assistance. Those who NEED it but are trying to better themselves or get through a tough situation(maybe job loss, disability etc. Then there are those that find out they qualify and don’t even try to get off. I think those in the first group are those that would really benefit from such classes. I guess what I am saying is people have to want to change. I was living in OR while on FS, at the time and so I don’t know if things have changed, but at the time, you could use FS at 7-11, at take and bake pizza places… Not the most healthy way to use them. We also knew people who would get groceries for other people using their benefits and trading it for alcohol, drugs etc.
Long story short, we make our own choices. There are some people who have plenty of $$ but wouldn’t use coupons and there are also people who are dirt poor who wouldn’t use them. We have to WANT to do it.
I think it is a great idea to offer them. In theory, it would also be a great idea to make them mandatory, but in reality, if people aren’t interested, they will simply not pay attention and won’t take anything from the classes. I would love to attend a class like that, even if I’m not on food stamps!
Rebecca, UT
I agree with most of your posters above, coupon classes should definately be offered but not be mandatory. I also think that anyone should be able to attend. I don’t qualify for food stamps, but I would have loved a class like this when I was just getting into couponing.
Sara C. from Ma
I think offering/requiring classes for food stampers would be a lifesaver! I can’t tell you how many times I’m standing behind someone in the checkout and they have a cart full of store brand groceries and all I could think is that they are way overpaying! My family of eight(6 kids)makes $50 a month too much to qualify for food stamps so couponing has become a must. My 2 1/2 year old daughter is g-tube dependent and our insurance and WIC provide Pediasure but I feel formulas are terrible and did some research and found out about the blended diet. Basically I buy whole fresh foods and cook them super tender and puree fine enough to push through the feeding tube. I freeze it in an ice cube tray and pop it into freezer bags for later use. The results of this diet has been amazing to say the least! She gets better nutrition than any child or adult for that matter that I know of
My point for telling you all this is that we get NO ASSISTANCE for the groceries I buy to do this. Coupons on such a tight budget has been our saving grace. Thank you!
I think it is a great idea to teach people the way of couponing and encourage everyone to maximize their savings and stretch their money as far as it can possibly go. In addition to teaching people how to stretch their dollars, I think the importance of teaching good nutrition, healthy cooking and healthy eating is equally as important.
I cannot imagine making coupon classes mandatory, much less having to follow up and make people accountable for practicing what they have learned.
I have always thought this would be a great idea, but I agree with other posters that the individual has to WANT to change and make things better in order for it to be truly effective. When encountered with obstacles many people look for the easy button or just give up. Many also don’t like mandates or they feel there is a stigma for using coupons. I read an article on who uses coupons most and they found that middle to upper class whites were the most prevalent coupon users…why?…they claimed they were most comfortable with their socio-economic status and therefore felt the least stigma for using coupons. Interesting…. For those that truly want to learn this would be a benefit of a lifetime in many ways!
This is a great idea. The idea of providing assistance to families in need, goes beyond providing food. The support system also needs to be in place for sustainability of good nutrition, budgeting, and couponing. These supports are what make a system more successful.
We are military and I was just telling my husband how I wish I knew what I know now about couponing and saving 8 years ago when we first got married, we would definetly have more financial freedom. I think a class like that would be very beneficial to everyone not only those on assistance but like someone else said I think calling it mandatory would turn people off.
I think it would be a wonderful idea! If people could live on LESS money, then we would be able to help MORE people. Maybe the concept is too simple-but that is just how my mind works. I think anyone who truly wanted to better themselves would take the class and run with it. Sure there would be those who don’t have the time, or maybe just struggle with it all, but maybe in those cases-a mentor could be assigned. I know I would volunteer to be one. I started a small couponing club in my area for that reason. So many people right now are looking for anyway to stretch a dollar. I believe offering a “smart shopping” class to those getting any government assisting would be a huge blessing and it would be a win/win situation for the government as well!
Dominique B.
North Carolina
I think it’s a great idea. The statistics I read about couponing show that the biggest users are people in the upper earnings bracket. (!!) So I guess that means people with low income don’t use coupons? Shouldn’t it be the other way around?
Granted, I don’t really know how these programs work. Maybe people are penalized for using coupons?
I think that the classes would be a great idea, especially if tailored specifically to the stores available to most of the recipients. A class on how to make the food stamps go farther even if shopping at convenience stores or only one market would be great. An optional class with a great reward for attending would probably draw the most people. Follow-up classes or printed handouts of the weeks best local deals would help those without internet access.
I THINK THAT THAT TYPE OF PROGRAM WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO ANYONE WHO WOULD BE WILLING AND/OR WOULD WANT TO LEARN HOW TO SAVE MONEY WHEN BUYING FOOD.
I think that is a great idea along with some sort of nutrition course. I think that people eat way too much processed food!
Bobbie P.
Ok…I have again taken this thread and on off the field with it.lol
I have lots to say and blogger’s comment function does NOT like that, so I am posting my whole response on my blog…. http://www.simpleslug.blogspot.com
The short answers is….I’ve explored this issue this past summer when my family participated in a Food Stamp Challenge. I can tell you that, the whole class thing?…it’s been done before and mostly failed, but that’s not to say that holding some sort of classes is not a fab thing to do since anything is worthwhile if it even reaches and changes ONE PERSON’S LIFE!
I’ve got some ideas(in the blog post)and when I get some time/energy, I’ll be working on actually implementing something concrete in my community.
Wow!….that was SHORT for a change.
But go read the long one too.
I’m curious to see what everyone else thinks on this.
Denise in PA
I’m not sure it should be mandatory. Maybe a brief introduction should be mandatory and then they could take a more in depth class if interested. Maybe you could incentivize the in-depth class by offering free coupons for a year.
I agree that the idea is a good one, and also with many previous posters who hesitate to make it mandatory. Incentives would make it a little more palatable. I think it would work best if the course could be tailored to each areas individual needs. If they have to shop at this store because it’s the closest, show them how to make the most out of that particular store. Factor in the obstacles that they’re likely to face in their unique situation. I think you did a post similar to this once, when you showed the deals that could still be had when you didn’t have a store that doubles.
Yes! I think this should actually be mandatory. I have stood behind someone w/ food stamps at the grocery store and had a hard time keeping my mouth from gaping open b/c I was shocked at what was being purchased.
Here I am watching my pennies, trying to stretch my husband’s hard earned dollar to buy good nutritious foods for my kids and the selection in front of me was anything but. I think it would make a world of difference – a win win all around. Money would go further and it would also give those using their government money a sense of control rather than a ‘who cares attitude’ b/c the money was just given to them.
I totally agree that having a “smart shopping” class to offer assistance for people who are needing assistance. I started couponing two years when I got married and was trying to live on a military paycheck (I <3 my soldier). The 1st few months we really struggled but I finally talked to someone about it and they suggested coupons. So I became addicted. It really has helped. We have been using the savings to pay off debt. My mother just lost her job a few months back and she is taking care of my little sister and my nephew. So she applied for assistance. She gets about $300 a month and the first 2 months she was struggling really hard to make that $300 last. Well we came home for vacation (Wyo to NC is 2700 miles) and I fussed at my mother because I have a budget of $300 a month as well and I often have extra. So I taught my mother how to coupon. She is now pretty good at it. I am so proud of her. If they had offered a class she might be doing even better.
It’s a great idea- the old “teach a man to fish” analogy. I think more education and more follow-up is needed. In theory, these programs are great, but their execution is often lacking.
I’ll admit it, I utilized WIC many years ago when money was tight and I had littles. As a result, I know many of the ladies at our local office. I offered to teach a class on coupon basics and they said no. No reason, no questions, just no. Sad…
PollyS Nevada
I agree with many of the previous posters, it would be nice if the classes were available…especially for those who eventually get back on their feet and can stretch their own dollars when the time comes. The old saying about giving someone a fish and they eat for a day, but teach them to fish and they eat for a lifetime definitely fits into this category. Go Melanie, you rock!
Tammy D. DE
I think it is a GREAT idea to teach anybody these things. There are so many people out there who know so little about how to make your dollar stretch!
I could had saved Thousands of dollars per year had I known then what I know now!
Amber Dotson
Thankfully one of my math teachers taught us savvy ways to safe money in HS so I was prepared for the real world. Mind you this was a good 28 years ago but I walked out of HS taught not to have any debt.
Now at my old HS the kids are taught the same lessons just in a class by itself called Consumer Ed. I believe it it a required class! My girls told the teachers my mom can come in and teach you guys all about coupons. lol Yes, I can so we can have smartly prepared future consumers.
Caroline
What a great discussion. It’s difficult to be pc and insist on mandatory requirements for public assistance, but I think it’s important to remember that it’s PUBLIC assistance. The money didn’t materialize magically from the “government”…people worked and saved and earned the tax dollars that fund these very important programs. I have no problem with programs coming with strings – it wouldn’t hurt to restructure what is considered “food”, either. I don’t see it as being helpful, outside of those who are disabled in some way, to encourage long-term, unqualified payouts no matter how small.
In the interest of actually serving the folks who need this assistance, I would love to see mfrs and grocers, who are both benefiting from purchases regardless of how they’re paid for, getting involved in the implementation. For example, providing coupon inserts w/o requiring a newspaper purchase, offering some sort of transportation to and from the store (someone mentioned food deserts, a difficult issue) and even realistic cooking classes for everyday meals based on that weeks circular. A cooperative effort between the government and the private sector would be ideal.
As someone who was on food stamps last year due to my husband being out of work for about a year, I can definitely say these classes would be a benefit, however, I don’t think they should be mandatory.
Tara L., Atlanta, GA
100% beneficial for everyone, especially those who are in need of government assistance.
Requiring people to take the course, I think would backfire and cause more arguments than anything and then everyone would forget why they were there to begin with, saving money.
I do agree with you, I so wish I had been taught couponing years ago. My mom use to coupon but not the way we coupon today.
I love the idea and agree with many that mandatory classes are always hard to swallow. I would love some free classes that taught more about shopping smarter and healthier. Although I know what is “good” food and “bad” food, I often get lost in the finer details of nutrition.
I am sure that my diet is not nearly as balanced as it should be. Any help with the shopping smarter and saving money deal would be a welcome addition to my day. I love the idea of having more than enough money to enjoy my life the way I want without wasting it on things that I could get for pennies on the dollar!
Carolyn L, Chicago, IL
I think it would be great if it was offered. I also think that some type of proven money-management course would be great. Unfortunately, many of us don’t learn how to manage our money until we don’t have much of it.
I think it would be great to offer some kind of course through the local library for all those who are struggling, not just those who qualify for public assistance. How about offering some kind of coupon handbook when families sign up for public assistance. This handbook could list additional resources for more information. If this was standardized, all people could be reached and not only those areas where there was someone to offer a course.
Amy V., MA
Rick and I were talking about this the other day. He and I want to come up with a basic curriculum (maybe 30 min. to an hour long) for a budgeting class that clients from the food pantry can attend to while they are waiting for their food order. I don’t know that they would require clients to attend this in order to serve them, but I think there would be a good percentage of clients that would be interested in such a class, especially since they are already there waiting. Then of those who attend, I know not all would put the info to good use, but those who do, would definitely benefit from it.
This way, the organization wouldn’t just be meeting their immediate needs, but also helping them with their long-term planning for future needs.
Moshi D. from MA
I really think that classes like this should be mandatory – even in high school. I teach a personal finance class to some local homeschoolers on a regular basis and have decided to include couponing/shopping sales as part of my class. This kind of info can be life changing.
Knowlege is power. Classes should be encouraged but not required.
I think classes like this should be offered, but I don’t know how effective it would be to make them mandatory.
I used to work for Star Market/Shaw’s, and knew that people on food stamps were allowed to use coupons, but very rarely saw anyone do it. I did have a customer once whose order was about $150, and by the time I finished scanning her coupons, the total was only $5, which she paid with food stamps. She told me that couponing helped her stretch the meager amounts she got each month, which made me wonder why more people didn’t do it.
As a previous poster mentioned, military have to complete a ‘financial readiness’ course with their training. I think if they have to, the general public should be offered the same thing. I agree it should not be mandatory, but have some spots specifically for those on benefits. I also think that maybe it could be offered at a local college or high school for one college credit (as incentive), maybe have semesters of 4 classes and let them bring in coupons and reciepts and each class work on one local store, maybe with a field trip to one at the end to compare prices in the real world.
My husband and I both lost our jobs two years ago while living in San Diego. We now have our own business but weren’t making enough money to make our bills. After learning how to coupon out of necessity we are now doing much better, have a stockpile and a bit of money saved!
We were on food stamps earlier this year and were given over $600.00 for a family of four! That is a ton of money!!! Just imagine how much better this system could be if they did have a couponing class! Just like WIC, they have you go in and teach healthy basics to feed your children, and it is mandatory. I don’t know why a class for food stamps shouldn’t be mandatory, it would really help these ppl stretch their dollars!
I think it should be mandatory! Classes could help get everyone back on there feet quicker! I’ve heard of job classes if you are getting aid, so why not make a class of how to use food stamps more effectively!
I love it! I’m not too good for food stamps I used them when I was 18 and had brand new baby but WISH someone taught me what I’ve learned in the last year!
Ashley R. MO
I absolutely think that would be a good idea. I was an unwed teenage mom when my first child was born and had to have food stamps to help feed him. I didn’t get very much and if I had known about coupons I sure could have stretched that little bit even further than I did.
I think its a great idea If I had been taught this years ago well I could only Imagen how much father my couponing skills would take my family of four!
I am on disability so I get a small amount of food stamps a month since there is only me. I use every coupon I can get my hands on. My problem is, I can’t always afford to buy the Sunday paper and I don’t have a printer right now for my computer so I can’t print any either. I think it’s a big help when people know how to use sales, markdowns and coupons.
seriousreader at live dot com
I think it’s a good idea to have the courses available. However, I’m not sure that requiring them would a good idea because many of these women or men may be unable to attend due to lack of time and/or transportation. Unless it was once a month or something. That’s just my two cents.
~Rachael O., MA
I think that it is a great idea as many others have already said. I have actually had this conversation with my husband before. Coupons have helped us buy things that we want for little or no money. Unfortunately, not everyone will jump on board regardless of their economical status. I have some friends who tell me that they simply don’t have the time to coupon or the patience even after they see the benefits of couponing. They simply don’t realize that it does not have to take up a lot of your time.
I don’t think courses should be REQUIRED, but certainly offered if there is an interest. Perhaps Social Services could have a list of related courses available. And these courses wouldn’t necessarily have to be offered AT Social Services- just information on where and when.
There is so much stigma that goes with having to apply and then use food stamps that I’d hate to Require people to take classes like this.
I think it’d be better to offer the classes and encourage people to go because they’d save money.
We have a program that is offered through our county extension office (not social services). It is partially funded through private donations and the rest the city pays for. You can take all kinds of classes on how to strech the food budget, food safety, etc. After attending a couple of classes they give out coupons that can be used to buy local produce at our local farmers market. I wish more towns had something like this.
A smart shopping class should absolutely be required. I know everyone has their own unique situation and there are several reasons that people need public assistance. The goal is to get people off of assistance. Education is the only way to do that. What’s the old saying? If you keep doing what you’ve always done, you’ll keep getting what you’ve always got. Teaching people how live within or below their means is a skill set that will enable them to take vacations, go out more, stress less, and retire without eating cat food. Requiring classes is not a new thing. In the commonwealth of Virginia if you are in a contested custody battle, parenting classes are MANDATORY. Does this mean you are a bad parent? Absolutely not. Does it help? You betcha! There are so many issues I have with public assistance that I could write all night long, but mainly, the government makes it almost impossible to get out once you’re in. I have lots of ideas on how to fix that, too. I think the private sector would be much more amenable to offering couponing classes as they don’t have the mounds of red tape to wade through. If someone hadn’t taught you how to do tasks, you wouldn’t know how to do them. There are lots of folks out there that have never had anyone teach them. Actually this should be a mandatory class in high school, along with “how do I balance my checkbook”, “what the hell is an amortization schedule”, and “compound interest-how I love thee” Alright then, I will be putting away my soap box now, but I might be marching my a$$ over to Congress……..
PS. Coupon Goddess, keep up the great work.
I think that there are many people who could benefit from this type of class; both those on assistance and those who aren’t. I have realized that we don’t just know things; we have to learn them and in order to learn them we need to be taught. That teaching can come in a variety of ways. I was lucky in that my mother was a thrifty shopper and stocked up on items that our family used so I grew up thinking that was what everyone did; not so! We also learn things by observing those around us and sometimes we learn through trial and error.
My first real job when I was a junior in high school was a bagger at a local grocery store. I remember one time when the cashier that I was bagging for said to me, as a customer approached our lane with her cart load of groceries, “This order is going to be paid for with food stamps.” I was shocked when it was paid for in food stamps; and looked at the cashier like she had some magical power. She said that during all her years as a cashier she had found that those who purchased mostly prepared foods, expensive cuts of meat and didn’t bother to shop sales or use coupons often paid with food stamps. I am sure I was pretty judgemental at the time and thought about how unfair it was that they were not making the best use of the funds that were given to them. That is my bad; I have no right to judge; these people may have been doing the best they could with what they knew. I have heard of people who are on food stamps (as well as those who aren’t) that run out of food before they run out of month; I am just guessing that they would enjoy being able to eat for the entire month. I would also guess that if they were given the opportunity to learn how to do that; there would be a fair share who would take advantage. I am in no way naive enough to believe that everyone would fall into this category. I am sure that there are many who would rather complain that they don’t have enough food; but not take the steps to change their situation. I do believe though that change begins with one person and if one person benefited from such a class that is a start.
Beth G.
Oregon
I think it should be offered. I receive food stamps and would love a course that would show me how to make the food money stretch as far as possible. I do use coupons but not as effectively as i think I could. I do not think madatory would work because of transportation issues. It is a wonderful idea though
This is such a good idea. Clipping coupons is one thing but knowing how to use them to make your dollar go further is AWESOME! I am still new to it all but I think it is a great way to save money. A class to teach people how to do it all is a great idea.
I agree with many others, that this shouldn’t be mandatory. Maybe it it offered to the general public and when people apply for food stamps they are given information about the class.
Nothing new here — it can’t be “mandatory” but what a great class to offer. Maybe coordinate that type of class with job hunting, parenting or higher ed classes. All this could be done during times when daycare is available. Great idea!
Shari O.
Virginia
P.S. How about offering it to high schoolers? Start them off right for life!!
I think that a course on couponing would be a wonderful thing. I never really understood the power of couponing until I started following the blogs. To teach people about something so simple and so easy to keep up with would be invaluable! It helps every family of every size stretch their dollars, allowing them to enjoy life a little bit more.
I am thankful for blogs like The Coupon Goddess to keep me informed and to keep me motivated! Your ‘haul’ pictures are what I refer to when feeling sluggish! If ever offered the opportunity to teach a class, please do it! An extra dollar or two can go a long way
I agree completely. If i knew then what I know now about coupons and saving $… I’dbe RICH too
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And yes, there should be a mandatory coupon class before receiving aid- some might actually appreciate the info and help (besides the aid).
Estera N- WA
I think classes would be a great idea. Though, some people might go through the process of taking the class simply to get the public assistance (and not care about the educational aspect) – However, if the classes are of high quality and engaging, that might grab their attention that was not initially present.
Offering a class in saving money by using coupons would be a good idea – however – I don’t believe making it mandatory is the way to go. Maybe manufacturers or local grocery stores would offer coupons to be delivered along with the food stamps as an incentive to promote savings.
I think it would be a great idea to have a class about couponing open to the general public. I’m super new to couponing and would love to have someone really explain it all to me personally, where I could ask questions and really understand how it works. It’s alot of information to take in at once and a little nerve racking presenting coupons for the first time! Good discussion….everyone has very good points.
Nicole B.
Massachusetts
I’m going to agree with the minority here…I think coupon classes should be available for those receiving public assistance and I do think it should be mandatory. Public assistance like food stamps is meant to be temporary…for young women with young babies and children, for those who have fallen on hard times due to job loss or disability and a host of other reasons that I wouldn’t dare try to list. I don’t see anything wrong with those who receive the assistance having to do something in return for that assistance.
I teach in a public community college and we have students each semester who come to class just enough until their grant checks arrive. After refund day, they disappear. Essentially these students have made a job out of collecting government money that was meant for others; they get away with it semester after semester. Food stamps are also sold on a daily basis…for cash. Some of my students were actually having a conversation about this the other day. When I asked them about it, they looked at me like I was a ditz. I live in Southern MS and know that some communities in our areas live off of assistance…generation after generation…as long as this kind of abuse continues, someone who really needs help will be left out.
I believe in helping others…who, if able, are willing to help themselves. Coupon classes and financial management classes make perfect sense to me if those on public assistance are ever expected to live a life without public assistance.
I agree with many of your posters who say, YES, these classes would be very beneficial but shouldn’t be mandatory. Since I started reading your blog, I can’t beleive the money I am saving. I have started teaching my daughter, who is on food stamps, because of disability how to get the most out of couponing. (At least with the little knowledge I now have) She too is enjoying this learning process of making the best out of coupons.
I think that’s a great idea! I know that some people on some of those programs are smart savers who just don’t have enough income, i.e. a friend of mine who is a SAHM and has 4 kids. However, I think it would be so worthwhile for people to have that kind of a class! Great idea!
I think it’s a great idea to offer. It’s probably something that would grow in time, as those that took the classes and learned what couponing can do for them, would let their family and friends in the same situation know that is it beneficial.
Ann
WA
As someone who learned to use coupons and shop the sales while on financial assistance I can totally get behind those type of classes. Yes some people wouldn’t be at all interested and will continue to buy the processed junk at high prices but a lot of people could benefit from such classes. That government money doesn’t go far when you’re trying to feed a family, especially if you’re trying to work some organic or healthier foods into the mix. Coupons really helped when I needed them and they continue to help me keep my grocery budget down today.
Nancy: PA
Great idea. Wish I had known about all this a long time ago. Only couponing since April and have learned so much, but had to do all the research and reading myself. Wish someone could have shown me. I feel blessed to know about this and read blogs like yours. I try to pass my knowledge along and feel it’s great if there was something for those that could use it even more.
Jenny P. Missouri
I say mandatory. I’m probably going to make a lot of people mad by saying this, but last time I saw someone use (and waste some of each) formula checks, she trotted out to her way better than mine car. I’m talking wayyyyyy better than the one I’ve been driving since high school. I’m 30 and have been married for 6 years. We don’t think we can afford to have kids yet, but I wouldn’t accept formula checks and drive a brand new car.
I think it is a great idea. Eating healthy on a budget is hard enough for those not getting assistance. I can only imagine how tough it would be if you were receiving aid from the government. I am not sure that mandatory would be the best way to go but at least offer some incentive to take the class and have people follow up with the students to help them stay on track.
Would be helpful? Definitely. Should it be mandetory. No. I say that becaue Her i Michigan the client’s are alredy required to attend Work First programs. I think that to continue to madate all of these programs may make the client;s feel that they are not respected. Every adult likes to feel that they have some control over their lives and they want to be treated and respected as adults. Just because someone is having a hard time economically and needs financial assistance does not mean that mean that they should have lsoe the espect of being a viable and respectable citizen. I know i went in a differnt direction, but when you talk about placing mandates on peolpe receiving assistacne I think it undermines their self-worth and self respect. I think it is enough to offer the information and make if avaiable. A person that wants to do the best for their family will jump at the chance to learn. If a person decides not to take advantage of the information doesn’t deserve to have their benfits cut off or jeopardized because at the end of the day, they still have a family to take care of.
This was a very good question to consider. I work for a county agency in CA and actually teach a coupon class for a program based on the principles in this blog and many others. I find that some participants are able to discipline themselves and use the tools to the fullest while others require much more direction and “do it for them” mentality. I have also had others so grateful for what they have learned and how it has saved them so much money and live beyond their limited budget or purchase things outside of the food stamp limitations. Honestly, for some it has been life changing and they are now training and teaching others and donating too!
As a person who is disabled, lives on a very strict budget, and just recently had to start using food stamps I believe that the classes should be offered and even mandatory. I feel that we make it too easy for people to have children and be public assistance. I am not downing anyone but I see my niece who is not even 18 yet working on her second child. She has dropped out of school and is basically going to have no prospects. She gets 350 a month in food stamps, I get 57 (its not much but it does help in this tough time). Using couppons enables me to get the most out of my 57. I usually can get almost 300 of groceries combining coupons, sales, and catalinas which then gives me enough food to last the whole month, while my niece is usually out by the 15th of the month and then complaining that she does not get enough. When I tried to sit her down and show her how to coupon and get the most “bang” for her buck she refused to even try and learn because it was too much work and she didn’t want to. So since I am rambling I will try to wrap this up by saying that where I live my niece is not the only one like this and it breaks my heart to see it. I am on food stamps now until I can get on my feet but I fear she is on them for life because she feels like many of her friends that its the easy way out, so making them work a little bit and showing them how to be responsible would go a long way and may, just maybe reduce the amount of benefit that has to go out.
Jackie, Illinois
I think it would be better if some sort of booklet was sent out. I also think people could benefit from a free copy of The Five Dollar Dinner Mom Cookbook or Family Feasts for $75 a Week. However, I think in an ideal world everyone would learn how to shop and cook from their family, friends, teachers, neighbors, or Girl Scout leaders. At the very least people should see what their local library has to offer.
I believe it should be offered as part of the program. Ex. when the case first opens up when their leaving with their paperwork give them a bag w/ various stores, what the coupon policies of these stores are and some MQ’s. This will visually enable them to see that their monies could stretch further.
Should it be mandated? IMO, no. A nutritional course should be mandated IMO with childcare provided. The coupons should be given as a bonus/options to help them stretch it even further.
Shayla N, NV
I’ve read several times that the majority of couponers and “smart shoppers” belong to the middle and upper classes. A surprisingly low percentage of those with meager incomes bother to coupon. I think it definitely requires some sort of financial stability to be a successful couponer (ink, printer, computer, sunday paper expenses, etc., not to mention time) and that just isn’t going to work for those poor enough to qualify for food stamps. I do see the benefit of classes teaching them to look for good deals while at the grocery store but I think that’s about as far as it might go.
I think a healthy eating and couponing course would be wonderful!! I talk with people about couponing and of course one of the problmes that I have heard is coupons come in the Sunday paper and that cost money..at least 2 dollars and ifyou coupon you know that money will be paid back but if you are broke andon food stamps ..that is a lot of money. I am going to do a couponing class in Jan at my church just to expose people to coupons. OHHH and I LUV you BLOG…and we have 2 stores who double coupons..Farm Fresh and Harris Teeter
Donna L. Virginia
I agree with some of the post above. If only I knew then …what I know now….. I was newly divorced and I did utilize FS for a while… I would always shop at discount grocery stores, but if I had had the knowledge, my FS would have lasted the full month. I would ALWAYS struggle at the end of the month. I have since gotten myself together and no longer have to depend on FS to feed my children. But if there had been a class or info session I truly would have benefited from it along with my children!!
Wendy M~ Texas
I definitely think it would be a great thing to be offered! Also, you don’t need a printer–it wouldn’t be taking advantage of ALL the deals, just enough to help them get by.
Of course I think we’ve all been irritated at one point or another, regardless of how much compassion we have, seeing people abuse the system. I once saw a woman buying candy and a soda with food stamps and then argue with the cashier because it left her a .10 balance. OMG, pay the 10 cents! She probably wouldn’t go to a class because it would be beneath her, but I know there are people who would love to have these resources available. They would love to be able to stretch their “money” further. It could be a real blessing to them to feel not so strapped when the end of the month is there and the kitchen is empty and there are hungry mouths.
It’s a shame the government just finds it easier to feed a man a fish than teach them to fish, you know?
Sorry for another one again, but I just read The Word Slinger Upstair’s Post. Unfortunately if made mandatory some people are going to disrupt the class for those who want to be there. That’s the fact of the matter.
Also, if I’m paying my taxes and it’s going towards your assistance, you better believe I want you to be a good steward. I am wise (for the most part
) with my money, why shouldn’t you be expected to be the same? People who abuse the system might as well literally just slap me in the face or come into my house and rob me. Same thing.
I do think it would be a great idea to offer classes on how to save money along with nutritional classes. I am going to go against the norm though and say I do think they should be mandatory. I feel that if the government is giving them this why shouldn’t they be required to take classes, if you are receiving unemployment you are required to apply for a certain number of jobs a week and at a lot of places that you work you are required to attend some type of training so why not make this type of stuff mandatory also.
I believe if the programs begin at a voluntary level, tracking those families, the results will show it is a win win for all. Keep in mind on line coupons might not work out for those families. If they cannot afford food, they cannot afford online fees.
I think a coupon class would be invaluable to those who struggle.
I attended a (free) coupon class while planning my wedding and found it so informative. My Husband (then Fiancé) had been out of work for over a year and I was working two jobs in order to save for our wedding. Coupon’s helped put more in the bank each month because my grocery bill was going down.
Recently, I was talking to my sister who does not coupon, or price shop anything she buys. I tried explaining to her the value of shopping around and using coupons. She simply said I was wasting my time. That was, until I told her what my total was at a recent grocery shopping trip before using coupon’s, and what the total was afterwards. The look on her face was priceless, I wished I had taken a picture.
I think it is a great idea, and would really help alot of people. couponing has for sure helped our family. Tena N Ut
I don’t think you could mandate such a course for adults.
This type of Information-money management, used to be handed down, generation to generation. But I think that an entire generation with no clue, or motivation, to manage their finances has created a huge turmoil.
Perhaps a return of “Home Economics” as a required high school course would be best. With a Dave Ramsey type approach and an expectation that every person has a budget.
We try to teach our kids this-but everyone in the world wants to offer them “credit” (including the college financial aid counselors, of course). It’s all backwards!
I feel there should be mandatory classes for people that receive assistance from the government. They are receiving something for free, and for them to put in a little time to learn how to utilize that money better or become a better money manager is not too much to ask. Maybe that’s just me and how I was raised though, my parents didn’t just give me money, I earned all the money I was given and I have a hard time taking money without doing something in return. Maybe the classes would help some people get off assistance quicker and start being more independent as well.
I will also say that I was on WIC as my husband got laid off his job started a Masters program and we had our second daughter. (Which by the way I would have loved to have done something, take a class, do some community service or something for it to make me feel like I did earn that food in some way, but i was very grateful for that food nonetheless.) But as soon as he got a job that we could budget more than $35 a month for groceries, we went off it, although we still qualified for WIC (and foodstamps for that matter) we didn’t take it because we genuinely felt we could budget the $120 per month at that point for our groceries. Unfortunately there are some people that just take and take from these programs, and because their money runs out before the end of the month they think they just don’t get enough from the government for the month, when in actuality they just haven’t been taught how to utilize it. Maybe that teaching a man to fish for a day feeds them for life principle, rather than just giving them the fish.
I feel the clases should be mandatory for food stamps as well as unemployment. A year and half ago I lost my job. We were a double income family with no cares in the world! Suddenly down to 1 income. I sure would have appreciated knowing what I know now back then!
We are doing better now and I am working. After finding your webiste and a few others, I now have learned to save alot of money!!
Thanks.
I think we need to do more for those in need. I was listening to NPR yesterday and NY wants to stop allowing food stamp recipients from buying soda with food stamps and I agree. If you need assistance then the government should assist not enable. I have a family of 6 and we live on $100 a week including dog food, diapers, household goods etc.
I think a coupon class is a great idea for people on food stamps. However I agree that people would resent it if it was mandatory. Times are tough and more people are on assistance than ever before. Some who are short term and really need the help, and some who have probably been on it for a LONG time. I think there are people who would love the opportunity to go to a coupon class, if it didn’t have to cost them anything to go. I think even more so a coupon class would be a benefit to those on assistance because they can’t purchase household items and toiletries on their bridge cards. But a class could teach them how to score these items without breaking the bank!
I think the classes would help, but not be required. I don’t know about other states, but here you can’t buy any non-food products with food stamps. Since everyone needs shampoo toilet paper I’m sure they’d like to be able to learn how to save some money on them.
Molly
UT
Sometimes (not always, not all) people using social programs abuse them, and in place of working… I think if people who aren’t using social programs like WIC, etc. would be encouraged make use of things like coupons and sales, it might deter those who abuse the system… leaving the help and assistance for those who need it. There is a place for these social assistance programs. But if you drive an Escalade, have a fancy phone, have your nails done, get your prescription medicine for free, and your basic staples for free while those of us who may live below the poverty line (because of current life circumstances, residencies, etc.) instead cut back and do without to live as well within our means as we can, using coupons and whatever else… let’s all work hard to leave the assistance for those who cannot provide. I’m trying not to make this a soapbox. Thanks for the giveaway. I wish someone had taught me how to use coupons long ago. My parents have been very successful in their careers, and instead of passing their money onto us, they let us fend for ourselves. Which is good-it teaches valuable lessons… but I wish someone had taught me earlier how to coupon. This is all over the place. Sorry…
I think this is a fabulous idea and I think it should be mandatory. I understand the difficulty some would face in getting to the classes. However I think everyone could find a way to attend one class if meant being able to eat for the rest of the year.
In my area, you must take a class in order to continue food stamps/social services. I believe this should be included in those courses. My DH laments “I wish we were thinking this way when I was working!”. Coupons and saving $$ in general have allowed us to choose for him to stay at home with our DS. Its wonderful!!
I think that I don’t think it could be a mandatory class, but I do think what a gift it would be if it were offered.
I too wish that someone would have taught me this earlier on. Like maybe in HS instead of some of the other dumb electives on the list. Balancing a check book and shopping wisely should be taught to sheltered little teens!
(Dude, I so want a pink Coupon Goddess tote!)
My two cents (our four if your store doubles! *grin*)…
I’d love to see a few things: A class on nutrition. A class on how to make simple delicious HEALTHY meals that don’t come in a box. Maybe even a binder of simple recipes. Ones that don’t take long to prepare too and are typically less than $2 per serving. And your idea of a class on how to get the most bang for your buck at the grocery store.
I’m not sure how you could logistically make it mandatory, but man I wish it would be… In the meantime, they should at least be offered.
You can teach it, but unless it is a mandatory requirement prior to the hand out of services, they will not come to the class. Example: Volunteered to teach english, free, to non-english speaking persons…no one showed up. Why not? Because they don’t HAVE to learn it. There are alot of people who would benefit from education of any kind, it’s just figuring out how to get them to want it.
Absolutely! I have a friend on government assistance, and I keep telling her she should shop with me one day. I recently became a stay at home mom and couponing has been a money lifesaver for us. I think it’s a valuable lesson for anyone who needs to stretch their income.
I love the idea, I think it should be mandatory, but I’m not sure of how to do that. If the government is giving out money, I think they should be able to require that certain courses be taken in order to qualify. However, people are still able to take the information they receive and “chuck” it, and it will cost money to teach the class. I’m with you, if I had known 15 years ago what I know today, I would have a really nice bank account and no mortgage!
There actually is a program offered here in upstate NY. It is not mandatory, but any person or family receiving food stamps is eligible. A nutritionist will meet with them 6-8 times or so and talk about ways to stretch their food stamps and cooking healthy, nutritious meals and snacks. Unfortunately, I don’t think coupon usage is addressed. I’m a social worker and I think it would be a huge benefit to my clients.
Mel J. from Pa.
I think a nutrition/cooking/coupon course is a great idea. It’s so hard to shop and cook on a limited budget and this would help.
I think it would be a good idea. My husband and I were just talking about something similar the other day. We know some people who get a lot of state aid, and don’t necessarily need it. They are definitely working the system and its hard to watch. My husband was recently telling the guy that his girlfriend should look into couponing because we save so much money this way. When the guy brought it up to his girlfriend she stated “Why would I bother with coupons? I get my food for free.” Clearly missing the point. On the flip side I know a family who works really hard and struggles to make ends meet every month. They have to choose which bills they should pay. It’s heartbreaking. But they make “Too much money” so they are not elidgible for any kind of aid. It’s very sad. My point is that these are two very different situations, but both would greatly benefit from the kind of information groups that you are speaking of.
Melissa M.
Maine
melissaleemarquis at yahoo dot com
I don’t know if people on assistance would benefit being taught coupons. To really benefit from coupons you need to buy more than one paper a week and sometimes just wait it out for what you want to be on sale. If you want to start couponing, you have to want it, not have it forced on you.
No. As nice as that sounds, not everyone has time to shop effectively. They’ll still receive the same assistance whether they shop smartly or not, so there’s no benefit to forcing them into taking a class. It would only make sense if they were reducing benefits and then asking you to take a couponing/smart shopping class.
Maria K. from Maryland
Anyone would benefit from classes on couponing..especially college aged kids..I do not think it would be taken seriously if it were required for those getting aide. A Dave Ramsey course should be required in high schools and college for sure! I am constantly amazed at what people spend on things and what they think they actually NEED in life!
I think a coupon class would be nice, but I also think they should have restrictions of what could be bought. I coupons get in ruffle when I see someone using food stamps to buy junk food and sodas.
As others have said, I believe OFFERING these classes, but not making them mandatory, is the way to go. I don’t think offering couponing classes to people getting state or federal aid would decrease the number of people “working the system”, but some people would absolutely take advantage of this class, especially if it was held at a convenient location and child care was provided. But like Carol said, if you want to start couponing, you have to want it, not have it forced on you. It’s sad to know that there’s this really easy way to save lots of money, and the people who would benefit most either don’t know how to do it or don’t care to learn.
Carrie
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I think nutrition class would be of better assistance. Most of the people I have talked to spend what little they have on what is the cheapest meal. As most of us know that is the overly processed “quicky” meals. A coupon class open to the public would fill up very quickly where I live. I’d be the first.
We were on Food Stamps when hubby was forced to retire & we were living on our savings until his disability income started. It was the pits for us – I always felt as if we were being judged by onlookers in the lines when we forked over those stamps. It would have been easier to pay with a card, as is the way things are done today. I used coupons to help then and would have welcomed a course in more efficient ways to use them then.
We have been off Food Stamps for several years but still use the coupons. A box in the Food Stamp office for coupons is a nifty idea. So would a small booklet, available free and onsite – with details in an easly understandable format showing how to gather coupons, carry them to the store, use them wisely and get the best deals you can. It might not be the exact same as delivering the information in a class – but it would be available more widely to those who might use it.
N Vining – Florida
Interesting topic! I think your on the right track with the shopping courses. We receive WIC and the ladies there have mentioned to me how I can use coupons on my orders to bring my total down. Especially with the fruit and veggies vouchers we get. Our local grocery store offers lots of valuable store coupons off of their produce so I can get more fresh fruit by using their coupons in conjunction with the WIC vouchers!
I think it should be optional. I think a lot of struggling families would appreciate the information.
I do think it would be beneficial – I mean there are all kinds of classes that teach people how to be smarth with their $$. When I first bought my house, I attended a class that taught me about budgets, and how to plan for unexpected expenses and repairs.
Heather in FL
AngieJ~TN
YES, I think some sort of classes teaching how to get the most of your money, or food stamps, should be mandatory! I know there a different types of people on assistance. The ones there due to circumstance (job loss, injury/illness, etc.) and are trying their best to get back on their feet, I don’t have any problems with. Now the ones who seem to make it their lifes goal to live off the system really gets my goat!!! I know a few too many like this. Who has come out and told me why should they work. They get free food. They get a housing allowance, along with electric, water and phone. Their kids get free lunches at school. AND when the holidays come around, you should see all the food baskets and toys they get from churches they don’t even attend! They are teaching their own children to grow up and be just like this! I know it’s not just the people, it’s the system itself, too. The whole system needs changed. If you need help, fine. But do something to try and better your situation. Don’t just stand there with your hand out saying “gimme, gimme, gimme”. Learn to give back, just a little.
Training classes would be a great idea. My mother never touched a coupon in her life until next year, so the extra help a class would offer would benefit the people that may not have anyone in their life to show them the ropes. I believe this should be offered with the assistance program and to the community as well.
Marisa, IA
I think a class like this would be a lovely idea! I wish I could take one now myself!
Nice little “debate” you have here.. Sooo many comments to read..
I like the idea of classes. If not mandatory, maybe they could give out a little pamphlets or something to explain some of the basics of couponing etc.
I wish I knew about coupons earlier than I did. A little work can save you a lot of money and it would really help the people who receive any assistance.
I’m not so sure about giving a supper classe and the like BUT I do think it’s awesome the way things are going. Giving tokens to people to use at farmers markets (were produce is much cheeper) and now even costco takes food stamps. It’s a small step in the right direction. I think a class as far as smart shopping would do wonders. Look before you buy. If the generic is MORE than the name brand, don’t grab the generic because you assume it’s cheeper, with or with out a coupon.
I would love to see classes for food stamps. I lived in a town on a reservation where almost everyone was on EBT. I taught one lady to stretch her EBT since her family was always out of food by the third week. I also got sick of the selling of EBT where mom and dad spent the money on booze why the kids went hungry.
One caution, if you see someone using WIC and then going out to her nice car, she may be getting that formula for a foster child. I did foster care and used WIC. I had people look at me funny when I used WIC but they didn’t know that I was a foster parent.