While at Blissdom, I ran into the author of I Heart The Mart, which is a great resource for getting deals at Walmart. We had a lively discussion on whether or not it’s ethical for people to heavily coupon for food pantries and other charitable causes. Apparently it’s a hot topic for debate in the coupon world.
Now as you know, I’m an advocate for supporting local food banks and I will purposely shop a sale, even if I don’t need the product, in order to donate goods. Last year alone I was able to donate over 900 pounds of food which I never could’ve accomplished without coupons.
I’ve always been very careful to do two things when I shop for food banks….
First of all, if it’s a large amount of product, I order it ahead of time so that the shelves are untouched. I can only think of a couple of instances where I did this in the past year, but I feel strongly that pre-ordering is the way to go. It’s just considerate.
If pre-ordering is not possible, I drive to multiple locations to purchase the sale items to once again not empty the shelves. With fuel prices skyrocketing, it has to be a stellar deal to make this worthwhile. Also, I have the luxury of having many stores within driving distance. I know that I’m lucky that way.
Now for the opposing view…
Some people feel that couponing for charitable causes takes away from the folks who are trying to get the same deals for their own households. And that the right thing to do is to wait until the last day of the sale to make those types of purchases in order for the “typical consumer” (whatever that is these days) to have the time they need to get the deals they desire.
An interesting debate for sure. Is it ethical for a couponer to purchase products solely for donating? Or do you agree that people who donate should only be able to shop the last few days of a sale to scoop up what’s left?
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As usual, let’s keep this debate friendly and considerate. I’m keenly interested in your thoughts on this subject!
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I shop for my family, and anything that I have in excess (over time) I donate. It is frustrating to go to a store and see someone clear the shelf for “donation” purposes, when all I want to do is provide for my family. I think donations are great, but waiting until the end of the sale would make it fair for all.
Pam P. from KY
I would like to shop more for my church’s food pantry. I agree that to avoid clearing shelves it is necessary to order ahead. Couponing has helped me feed science olympiad teams of 30 kids. These kids are there until 6:00 p.m. each night as the competition gets close. Without coupons I would not be able to send in the amount of food that I do.
Ok, here are my thoughts on the whole debate. I believe that whether or not a person is shopping for items to donate or item to stockpile for their own family is totally up to them.
If they clear the shelves than they clear the shelves. If that person chooses to spend their money on products they have the right to buy as much or as little as they want. If you happen to be ahead of the game and preorder your items good for you and that is a very considerate thing to do but not everyone has the time to think ahead this way. If they happen to come upon a great sale and have coupons to make it worth their while to buy up all the product they have the right to do so.
It is frustrating to go to the store, coupons in hand ready for a great score, only to find the shelves empty. It has happened to me before too. But, that’s the name of the game. That is also what rain checks are for. You also have the choice to shop sales early before the supply dwindles.
So I guess bottom line, people have the right to buy how much they want and whenever they want. We live in America don’t we?
Theresa
There is nothing more frustrating than going to the store and finding nothing left on the shelves because someone wanted to “donate”. You never know half the time if they’re actually telling the truth or not. I think donating is a good thing, but I think you should wait until the end of the sale or pre-order so I can buy two or three for my family first. I only ever want two of the sale item and I can never get them. We have HORRIBLE shelf clearing monsters at Target. I swear to God, if it’s free, it’s gone.
I think you can purchase all that you want, whenever you want. There is no reason to wait until the end of the sale. Are the people receiving the food at the food bank less worthy than the person shopping for themselves? The food bank should only receive the leftovers? I don’t think so! Pre-ordering is nice, but not necessary.
Great question, Mel. This is a subject that personally drives me a little batty. Sure, we all have the “right” to clear shelves, but we are talking about being ethical and most of all, considerate couponers. I wait until the last day of the sale if I know what I’m going to buy is going to the food bank. I also donate what is in my stockpile that I don’t think will get used up before the “use by” date. I am interested in helping people that are clipping coupons and putting in the hard work of shopping smart to feed their families on a small budget just as much as those that have to visit the food bank. It is definitely a pet peeve to read a forum discussion where someone brags about how they bought 25 of a particular item on the first day of a sale so they could donate it to the food bank. I always think to myself, “Nice, there’s now possibly 25 people who left the store empty handed who needed that to feed their family”…maybe, maybe not, but it is something to think about.
Tammy D. DE
I do “donation runs”. I just did my taxes and added up all the donations I did. It totaled almost 1300 lbs of food! We’ve had some killer deals here on cereal, soup, pasta, hamburger helper, etc. I typically don’t clear a shelf. The only exception to that was once I went on the last day of the sale an hour before the store closed (10pm). I purchased everything they had left. I know the food bank LOVED getting all the food, and I am able to donate so much more than if I had paid full price.
Jennifer D, Minneapolis, MN
I wish people would only buy what their family will use. There are a lot of lower income people spending time and money to drive to the store to get a deal only to find things wiped out. If they were able to get the deal in the store perhaps there would be fewer people needing to use the food bank. I also question how much of the stuff ends up at a food bank vs rummage sale or flea market.
Cindy
Colorado
I believe that it doesn’t matter who you are shopping for, if it’s your family or not (donations), you can do it when you want and how you want. Who are we to decide who is more important and should come first? I’m all for not shelf clearing and it does suck when you go in and everything is gone, but such is life! If we lived in a perfect world, we’d be bored!
Its all about quantity really. Doesn’t matter if you are donating it or not, if you are clearing a shelf of all the same product (meaning you don’t pre-order the week before), its a no-no. I coupon so I don’t have to be poor and possibly need assistance from food pantries and the like. If I am no longer able to get a couple of the sale items because someone has cleared the shelves to donate, it hurts my family.
Rachel A. from NH
I don’t really see why it matters what day of the sale you’re shopping…Like Melanie, I spreading out my shopping among several stores to give everyone a fair shot. And we all know the shelf clearers aren’t always donating
Margaret P. from NC
i think, especially if you pre-order, donating is a great idea. If it’s free, or close too, it’s a win-win!
I’m curious, if you get these items for free and donate them, do you claim that on your taxes? Is that ethical? I suppose you can look at like you donating your time (and gas) as well, and that is worth alot? But, should you be making money off donating?
Noreen T, MA
I hate going shopping for a deal and finding the shelf is cleared. It is great to donate but not everyone can shop the first day of a sale and it does seem unfair to consistently clear shelves to “donate”. I like the idea of preordering if you are planning a big haul to donate (or for yourself). I don’t think there’s a right or wrong answer here but the courteous thing to do is obviously to not clear shelves. Leaving deals in the store for others to purchase is just as kind as donating:)
I think it’s fine as long as you pre-order (like you said) or as long as you are not wiping out the shelves. It does seem unfair to take the deals away from the other couponers (hate when I find an empty shelf) but at the same time it’s so great to help those who are truly in need.
Tara T., VA
Sara C. from MA
I think shelf clearing is unethical, however I do not think you can tell people, where, when and who to shop for. Maybe stores should start putting a limit on same item purchases, and if you want to buy more you will have to pre-order. I am sure people would find a way areound it, but maybe they would also get the hint!
I think it’s fine! Would it matter if you went in and payed cash for those same items? You’re just trying to help others the best way you can.
Loriann H. from MA
I don’t typically donate much to food banks as I’m not a prodigious coupon user. (We’re more a donate time type family.) So this fascinates me!
As one who likes to use a few coupons, the shelf-cleaners infuriate me. You obviously took the time to collect enough coupons to be able to clear the shelf, but you couldn’t take the time to phone the store to pre-order? I don’t get that. I’d love to see limits put on, but I also know that’s a nightmare for the stores to do. I wish everyone would be more concerned with the bigger picture and being considerate of others than their “right” to get the deal they want.
I’m all for shopping a deal to donate to the food bank. I just hope folks would do it as considerately as possible. Of course that’s kinda how I feel about living life in general – consideration, kindness, and teamwork.
Thanks for another great debate Melanie!
Britt D
South Dakota
I have donated to food banks many times, but honestly, I have never shopped *to* donate. I may have bought extra from a great sale that I stumbled upon, but that’s about it.
What I like to do too is donate cash. What I understand is they can better use those dollars than me, even if I take the time to do the couponing and the purchasing and the donating (and the gas and drive time and etc)- the food bank would get better mileage out of my dollar even then. My grocery store, H. E. B., has $1, $5, and $10 donation slips available at the register, it’s very convenient.
So I guess I am sidestepping the question.
Rachael M, Texas
I’m against the shelf clearing aspect of it. I like to donate too and will do so when the deal is right. But i don’t have the time to do the store hopping thing to get every deal. I do ones that are easiest for me. And since i don’t tend to have more than 2 coupons for things (3 if mil saved them for me) it bugs me when i get to a store and nothing is left. Sometimes i just chalk it up to a lose, sometimes i get a rain check or try back later. I’ve moved last year and had to learn where to get hot deals. And now with the gas prices it has to be really worth while. Now i’m mostly sticking with my family for couponing since i’m prg again and don’t have the energy to chase thing. If i do get something that easy or not going to be used by the best buy dates it does go to church.
I personally purchase items for donations a few at a time that way I don’t clear shelves. It may take me longer to get my donation together but every little thing counts.
Lana P
Missouri
I purchase my items for donations a few at a time. This way I don’t clear shelves. It may take awhile to get my donation together but everything counts in an empty food pantry.
I admire people who are able to use their couponing skills to donate to food pantries! I have done it in the past, but usually cannot find the time to donate very often. My view: If you’re going to spend your time and money for a charitable cause (In many cases, we’re still paying a little out of pocket for the items or the coupons), then you should be able to do it whenever your schedule permits, and you shouldn’t need to wait until the last day of the sale. I do, however, expect everyone to show a little bit of courtesy to others by not completely clearing the shelves whenever possible.
I do take offense to the people who stockpile sale items in order to resell at flea markets or yard sales, or those “extreme couponers” who buy more than they could ever use or donate in a lifetime just for the thrill. I always assume that these are the people who are clearing the shelves anyways.
BJ’s doesn’t give rain checks. Neither does Target. At least, my local ones don’t.
I have never cleared the shelves unless I was getting the last remaining product from the shelf. Even then, I like to find someone in charge to tell them they need to restock. Sometimes, they even thank me. . .
I think there is a happy medium. I am not going to buy 100 boxes of cereal to donate but if I can get a few extras I will donate those to our local foodbank. Or if I overbuy on an item then realize my family won’t use it up before expiration I will donate it. I find it fairly time consuming just to stock pile for my own family
Tina H, WA
Kimberly F from New York
I work FT. I also have a child in a lot of activities; and it’s my responsiblity to bring him. As a result, I only have friday to shop. It’s frustrating to have my deals and coupons ready to have the shelves cleared – and rain checks don’t work if the deal includes a cat or cents off of gas. I just wish others would be considerate to allow more people to get the deals than clearing shelves. I work bc I have to, not bc I want to.
I feel that if you want items, instead of finding empty shelves, you need to get to the stores at the very beginning of the sales. Often times at the drug stores there is only 5-6 of the items on the shelf to begin with. I do get a little tired of reading about “shelf clearing” Half of the time, I don’t even believe the shelf was cleared, instead I think there was little stock to begin with.
With gas prices being what they are, when I go shopping whether its major copon shopping or shopping with no coupons, I am going to buy/get what I need. I can’t afford to go to a store to get 1-2 items.
I understand its disappointing to arrive to a store to get yourself a great deal only to find an empty shelf. It happens to me all of the time. However, I dont automatically think that a shelf clearer srrived before me. I am more apt to think that there wasnt much stock to begin with, then I think that the next time there is a big sale I need to get to the store sooner!!!
I say coupon and shop for charity all you want. If there is 50 of something on the shelf, leave some for others, but certainly try to stock up as much as possible!
Happy shopping everybody!!!
I am a couponer, but by no means on the same scale as you and your readers. If there is something I want, I know that means I have to get to the store the first or second day of the sale, otherwise forget it. Simply put… the early bird gets the worm. If you want the deal, you’ll find a way to work it into your schedule. A lot of comments mention shelf clearing. How do you know that was the work of one person? Perhaps ten people wanted the same deal and put forth the extra effort of getting to the store before you. I don’t fault anyone for trying to save a buck where they can.
Complaining is human nature. Focus on what you can change rather than things you can’t.
This just got me hot under the collar this past week. There was a story in Sunday’s paper about a woman who has donated so many pounds of food to the Food Bank. Maybe she pre-orders, but the article did not mention that (which it should have if she does). If so, that is GREAT! Pre-order all day long, I do not care. I think it’s great!! I DO have an issue with people who do not pre-order, but rather wipe out all the stores (and we know which ones are ill-prepared for sales so will not be restocking!) in the name of donating.
I have the same issue with people who print coupons specifically to leave on the shelves for other people. By the time I’m able to print, all the prints in the campaign are gone and I would have used the coupon. At the store that coupon may end up being used OR, more likely, it ended up in the trash (I’ve seen employees tidy the shelves and throw the coupons away). I, however, would have loved to have been able to get my hands on just 1 print to use myself! However, working outside the home somewhere where I cannot print up coupons, by the time I get home from work most of the time the prints are all gone. That makes me more irritated than anything else. That $10 Enfamil coupon? I have a baby on the way and would have loved to use it. However, all over the blog world I heard of people printing 2 prints to leave at the store, not using themselves. That is what irritates me, when I can’t take advantage just because someone else is trying to do good. (Oooh, I sound like a Grinch don’t I??) It’s just frustrating all around.
By the way, at my work, I see all day long the recipients of the Food Bank as well as the crap that the FB donates food to (Taste of Hampton Roads–That is a fundraiser where the FB donates their donated food–and the money is not going back to them. It is not a noble gesture either, just a bunch of rich people benefitting from their contribution). You can afford cigarettes but not food? Get your priorities straight and then I’ll help you out. Our FB should quit donating food to rich people and I might consider donating.
Whew, need to go lower my blood pressure now…
Amanda H. (VA)
I also coupon for charities, but I never clear the shelves. Like Melanie I will go to 2 or 3 stores when the sale first starts, and then I will check again on the last day of the sale.
I really, really hate when people clear the shelves. We have some greedy people here that clear the shelves and they do it to re-sell the items on ebay, which annoys me! I will also use coupons to stock up for my family and charity, but will never clear the shelves because I find that to be poor coupon etiquette.
Kimberly G, Stamford, CT
I have never seen anyone clear the shelves for whatever reason but I think it’s best to be considerate of fellow shoppers, even when donating for a good cause. I agree that calling ahead is a great thing to do.
Valerie S
CT
Kristin M, Hanover, Pa
I hope that people are couponing to donate to food banks! This allows the dollar to go farther and to be able to get more for that said dollar and therefore feed more hungry mouths. Who cares how the food gets there and if it was bought with coupons. and if the ‘average shopper’ wants to get the deal, get there early. the early bird gets the worm, right?
I like to coupon for my family and extended family when I can. Anything extra I give to patients at my work that are struggling or woman’s shelters.
I see nothing wrong with that, and totally support donating to food banks!!
Jenny H. Washington State
I believe that as long as you are not clearing the shelf there is nothing wrong with it, it just goes back to being considerate for others! There are many other people who clear the shelves and buy much much more then they need, just because they can! Donating it is simply the right thing to do!
PS- Normally I only get to shop on Thursday nights, hours before the sale ends, so your waiting till the last minute wouldn’t really help me get any more deals lol
Nicole B
RI
I think that using coupons either for yourself or for donations is wonderful. However, I feel that wiping out the shelves is wrong. Either order ahead or shop around.
jean r , nj
I generally donate things from our home that we no longer use to local charities. These organizations sell our items and use the money to support their causes some who have food banks – others are animal shelters). Many people have yard sales with everything that they no longer use – we donate our undesired items.
So (yes I got here the long way around) I do not donate very much to local food banks.
And I have a serious problem going into local stores first thing on the first day and finding the shelves already cleared – or just one or two items left.
Elise M from Florida
If Someone can get something for free and help a food bank– why not? Preordering the product is a great way to do it as well vs. being a shelf clearer. I wish there was something we could do about shelf clearing because everyone loves a good deal!
Cara P from TN
i realized that I never answered the question (duh) – I feel that if people can afford to coupon for food banks that is wonderful (things are tight here so we can’t) – but be considerate and don’t clear the shelves!
Elise M
Florida
I agree with waiting until the last day. That is what I typically do. I get so frustrated when a shelf is wiped clean and I only needed two of the item, just to get up to the checkout and have a cashier tell me that the items were donated. That’s great… but I would be in the food pantry line myself if it weren’t for coupons and I can’t afford the gas it takes for me to get to my closest store (30 min. away) just to find out that everything is gone.
Ashley M., Tx.
Mel J. from Pa.
Wiping out the shelves is wrong. I’ve gone to the store many times for items I had coupons for and everything was gone. Pre-ordering is the way to go.
I think an earlier post made an interesting comment when they questioned if people who were donating items were also taking a tax refund on the donations. I think that adds a whole new element to this discussion. If you are clearing the shelves, getting stuff for free, donating and getting a tax credit – is that ethical at all? Is it legal? I didn’t see that anyone had responded to her question, and I’m curious.
If people want to donate a huge amount that will clear the shelves, please pre=order. It is very frustrating to go to a store where I want to buy only 2-3 of a certain item but the shelf is empty.
Alex H
OH
Angie S from Missouri I am FOR pre-ordering for the folks that aren’t couponers – I on the other hand have donated, but unfortunately NONE of my local stores will pre-order for myself or others (BOO!!!), but I believe in NON SHELF Clearing it’s just ridiculous to do and just NOT in the least bit fair.
I do think that it’s unethical to clear the shelves for any reason. Pre ordering is much more considerate way to go. To give an example why I feel this way, my local Wags was constantly getting cleared out of items last year. Now this particular Wags is located near a senior housing complex. Many seniors, on limited incomes, would go to the store and find the items cleared off the shelves. These people are not as mobile as some of us young bucks (LOL). They may only have the chance once a week to get out to the store and maybe the item on sale was something they needed. I got this information from a manager (who was getting frustrated with shelf clearing too).
A lot of people do not have the opportunity to go back to the store, day after day. In my case, I work so I can’t keep going back to see if the item I wanted is restocked. In other cases, people may live in rural areas far from the stores or they may not have a vehicle, the list could go on an on.
Donating is never a bad thing, but when it is at the expense of others, it turns a wonderful gesture into less of a wonderful gesture.
Lisa W-H, New Hampshire
Hi Mel, I’m curious as to what the authur of I Heart the Mart had to say?
I have good intentions to use coupons for my family and maybe to donate the extras — but then I miss the sales and good deals because of my schedule. If I have coupons and see a deal when I finally get to the store, then I will buy (but I only have 2 coupons at the most).
So I am not sure if the empty shelves here are from shelf clearers because I am never first at a sale.
My thoughts: Take what you need and use what you take.
Michele CO
I have no problem with it. The part that bothers me is when couponers then take a full tax write off on it. Just not cool imo.
Carre B.
Plymouth MA
lisa R. from texas
honestly I do not agree with this act of clearing shelves.. I have seen ppl go in to a store take everything they can that is on sale or good deal with coupons, not caring about the ppl next to them who are trying to get just one of that same item, then get to the register and do more than 15 transactions… It really has given all couponers a bad name… I’m not saying you should not donate to food banks or charities however shop with common curitosy, i have gone to more than one store in order to get the amounts of an item i need without clearing the shelves. as i dislike when i get to a store to only find that someone has cleared the shelves once again.. Where i live it’s like a game to new couponers “who can get to the store first and take everything before any one else has a chance to get any” it’s fustrating and rude. I understand if their is only 3 items on the shelve and you need them then no problem, but when you take all 20, 30, or even 50 of the same item… come on really..
just my 2 cents: if you can’t possibly use it all don’t take it all.
I am also curious as to whether or not the donation of free items should be used as a charitable donation on tax write-offs! I think donating to charities is great, but clearing shelves, not so much.
Wow, this really does stir up alot of emotions in people.
I think if you are able to donate that is fantastic, whether you paid full price or used a coupon.
There are many times I go shopping and a shelf is empty. I usually chalk it up to people getting there first and I get a raincheck or I check back. When I go I buy 2-4 of an item and if there are only that many left, am I a shelf clearer?
I guess I don’t know how people are able to get such large quantities. Most of the food stores around here limit you to 4 of the same coupon. I guess if you are going through all the trouble to aquire all those coupons and have to split up your transactions you could at least call the store and see if you’re able to preorder.
I guess the old saying of do onto others always comes to mind.
Pattie Q NJ
I have never been a shelf clearer simply because i have very little room to stockpile large amounts. But what if you get there and there are only two of the item you were going after and thats all you want anyway? Does that make you a shelf clearer? Is it frustrating to spend time putting a trip together only to get to the store and find an empty shelf? Absolutely. But in this economy its every man for themselves. Donating or not you should be able to buy the amount you want when you want. Some consideration should be taken with the amounts you are buying but not everyone feels that way and there are shelf clearers everywhere you go.
Amanda A
Jemison al
Diane M – North California
It’s the land of the free and the home of the brave. It’s no one’s business who/what/where you are buying for. If you are kind enough to donate – I say go for it. While it’s frustrating to find cleared shelves, there will always be another deal.
I think it’s great to donate, but it’s not right to be clear shelves. An organization will be just as happy with a 20 item donation as with a 200. By clearing shelves and going to extremes, it makes a bad name for all couponers, no matter what the reason and in the end, it will affect all couponers.
Carmen J Texas
Clearing shelves even for a good cause affects all couponers and in the end we may struggle with polices that discourage couponing.
Carmen J Texas
I don not really understand what the preorder aspect has to do with it. If there is a hot sale at Shaws and Melanie goes in and preorders at her local Shaws. How does that not take away from my local Shaws. Don’t most stores have distribution centers that ship to many local stores. The only way the preordering would make sense would be if it came directly from the manufacturer. Otherwise it just takes from other locations.
Shannon S. from Texas…I don’t think they should have to wait until the last day of the sale. I feel that if you want to get a large quantity you should order ahead whether it is for your family or donating, if possible. I do not like the idea of clearing shelves especially for donating. I am working hard to support my family and feel it is respectful of other to not clear shelves. Life is not fair but you can at least show respect. When I say don’t clear shelves I don’t mean buy 50 and leave 2 saying you didn’t clear the shelves. There is a right way and a wrong way too coupon regardless of why you are buying the product.
I have to say that I see both sides, I do like to purchase for charitable causes, however I have also been on the other side. I have a child that I need babywipes for and there was a sale and I went to get the baby wipes that I desired and they were all gone? To boot I had gone to a clipping service to make sure I had the coupons, but I was unable to get the product. I heard in the store that someone had overheard that the person who bought all the wipes was going to give them to a charity… I thougth ” That’s nice of them, but I need those wipes for my own child, I prepared for the sale and now I have these coupons and I’m not going to get the deal”, this also happened with Desitin that I was out of and needed for my child. So I have to say that I am still for giving to others, but I am thinking that if people are planning to buy for a charity they really should do as you mentioned and order ahead so to leave some products for the folks who need it within their own home.
Alycia R
NH
This is certainly a subject for debate. The whole point of donating is to help feed people who can’t afford it during these rough times.Right ?
So then use that compassion and leave some for others who have to grab sales and coupons for their own families needs. Pre-order , if you shop at the same stores, get to know the managers and let them know what you’ll be doing. This way you can get as much as you want and still leave the shelves filled for others.Because I don’t believe anyone would deliberately clean off a shelf denying anyone else when it’s in their nature to help others. But God Bless everyone who can afford to and do donate to these Food Banks.
Carol L
Lucky4750 (at) aol (dot) com
First, I don’t see shelf-clearing as unethical – stores should stock quantity commensurate with expected sales volume. Limited quantity is not the problem of the early-bird, and the complaints shouldn’t be lodged against other shoppers but ill-prepared or loss leader driven retailers. Pre-ordering is the perfect solution for this problem for both the retailer and the customer, and I’m grateful to Melanie and other coupon/food bloggers who emphasize this method. It benefits everyone.
Second, I do believe there are certain elements of the food industry that are unethical, so I’m never really in competition for the items that are cleared, with any regularity. I buy shelf stable staples, the same quality I would for my own family, and donate those. It eliminates most of my ethical dilemmas.
I can emember when I took coupons to the store–39+ years ago and the shelves would be empty! This was before super couponers. So, this is not new. It was not due to people with dozens of coupons.
I agree with beenomom, It is your right to get what is on the shelf no matter what you are doing with the food. Yes, I would fume, but the early bird gets the worm. No, I have never cleared a shelf.
Plus, my store limits like coupons to 4 per day. Or trip. Forgot which.
I do pity the poor mom trying to feed her family who cannot afford to drive back to the store in hopes of finding the product another day.However, it is not unethical to clear a shelf.
Who cares if the items end up in the flea market or a yard sale? Ever hear of free enterprise?–buy low and sell high, making a profit?
If I were in a store and clearing a shelf, and someone came up with several coupons, I would allow that person to have some of what I cleared off the shelf. It would just be sharing the good fortune with someone standing there. I would feel it was the right thing to do.
Now, if the person abuses me verbally or gets an attitude that shows in demeanor, I keep all I managed to get.
Everyone is going to have a different take on this, so I cannot see how anyone can judge what is right or wrong on the matter. I have been on the empty shelf side of this problem, but have never emptied a shelf.
Linda D Alabama
Courtney M., Florida: I think it’s a great way to stock food pantries!!! But I very much believe in calling the store ahead for large orders.
If the shelves are bare it is not the fault of the customer, it is the fault of the store for not properly stocking the shelves coupons or no coupons.
I donate alot of food I purchase with coupons. If the shelves are bare I ask if they have stock in the back and/or I get rain checks. I have large stores to shop so I can’t say I’ve ever ‘cleared a shelf’ but if I have it’s because the store hasn’t adequately stocked an item.
I am doing what I can to alleviate the horrible pain and suffering caused by Obama’s destruction of our economy by donating everything I can afford to the Food Bank, coupons make a impact in my efforts. I volunteer in my community and I can tell you the silent suffering is really bad… people need food. Food stamp consumption is the highest ever (44.7 mil or 1 in 7 people) due to Obama’s mismanagement and you’d be surprised with how small the food stamp stipend is if you are single ($88 per month – try to eat on that amount for a month).
Sorry, I am rather passionate about my Food Bank donations – I wonder sometimes if people understand how desperate for food some people are so I will not wait until the last day of a sale and purchase whatever remains for those in need. I need to make whatever impact I can in the lives of people that need food assistance.
Rita S in VA
I coupon for my family and sometimes donate things I won’t use. I never get more than what I am allowed at Rite Aid with my one card and also don’t buy the misc. things at Wags just because they are free. Yes I could donate but tax adds up quick and I leave it for someone who may need it. Besides in my town of one Rite Aid, one Wags and land of no CVS it is almost impossible to get half of the deals past sunday. Grab a few extras to donate with all the food items you want but make sure you don’t clear the shelf for those of us who are couponing truly just to feed out own family.
Jennifer B. WA
Seana M. NY
I don’t think this is an ethical question per se. It’s more about being respectful to others. I think it’s great if you are buying in mass quantities to order ahead. If you don’t, then, that’s your choice. I understand others may be annoyed. There’s no way to make everyone happy regardless. I went to the market yesterday with a coupon for Mott’s applesauce to go for 2$. Not a single one on the shelf. Was I annoyed? Yes. I assume there were probably 10-15 in the shelf to begin with. Did I get a rain check? No. The customer service line was too long. Did it ruin my day? No. Seriously, there are bigger things in life to worry about. Just my 2 cents.
I think using coupons to donate to charity is a great deed, but I do strongly believe that it must be done in a pre order fashion. I do understand that some things or places won’t pre order and I wish there was a better solution to this as oppose to driving to several stores. However, I strongly feel that any couponer that clears the shelf out of greed is just being excessive and rude. I coupon out of necessity for my family, however I do not and will not, clear a shelf because I am sure there is someone else that is couponing out of necessity as well. If I see a particular special the week before I will make it a purpose to pre order.
I love the idea of donating to charity and even gift my used coupons to a local extreme couponer whose mission is to donate to charity, but I strongly feel she does it in the most gracious way possible and does not clear the shelf out of greed.
Ashley M. from Ohio
It sounds to me that it’s more an issue of shelf clearing than who the food actually goes to. Is it really necessary to clear the shelves? Can’t you get some for your family or some for the food pantry and leave some for others? Again, there should be less concern about WHO is eating the food – we all need to eat. It should be more about taking it ALL off the shelf at once. Is that really necessary?
LeAnn S. Wisconsin
I think we all need to coupon in what ever manner makes the most sense for our families and our community. We are most of us working raising children and trying to help our children help their children. And with the cost of gas making multiple trips to the store just is not cost effective for anyone. I work in retail and the markup on these goods is really, really high. But with that said it is such a double edged sword. The owner of the retail store is also providing for a family and the families of his or her employees. Trying to keep employees insured is an astronomical expense these days. I think in order for this debate to be solved many other issues also need to be solved.
I agree with Noreen. Is it ethical to get groceries for free, donate them and then declare them on your taxes? The food pantry I donate to, requires that you make copies of your register receipts and submit them with your donation. This keeps people honest and also is proof of donation for the pantry. If they weigh your donations, there is no way to prove that you did or didn’t pay for them.
I also wonder about buying coupon inserts online. I was always led to believe that selling coupons was against the law. And where do these people get all of these coupon inserts from? In my area people have actually waited for paper deliveries on Sunday and stolen the inserts before the employees arrived to take them into the store. It is so frustrating to buy the paper and find out that the coupons are gone.
I only use coupons that I get online (2 prints), or are given to me by family members. I donate what I wouldn’t use myself, and though it isn’t very much, the pantry is always grateful.
Patricia, Middleboro, Massachusetts
Great reader debate Melanie! I think the key words and actions from this dialogue are courteous and considerate. Please donate whenever you can! Pre-order to make it easier for you, the store (they like the volume!) and the food bank (they LOVE the food!) as well as leave stocked shelves for all others. Shop any day of the sale you can fit into your schedule but don’t clean out one store on the first day of a sale. If you are shopping for just your family, shop the sale as early as possible to avoid the wasted gas and time and the disappointment of a cleared shelf. Get rain checks!!
elizabeth p in va
Shelf clearing is just WRONG- whether buying for your family, to donate, or to sell; I do lump these together because I think that once you’ve bought something you can do what you want with it. I do all 3 to varying degrees & don’t clear the shelf.
I have pre-ordered 2-3 times but generally if it’s an awesome deal, it usually isn’t too hard to spread out a few purchases over the week or over a couple of stores (if you have them) and frankly what I consider an awesome deal on something isn’t necessarily a great deal for someone else.
I explain great deals to the people behind me in line if they ask; I let people go ahead of me if they will be quick. And I do one transaction & go to the end of the line if I want to do more than one transaction. Sometimes I get rain checks if a store doesn’t have enough stock of something- if I can figure out this coupon/sale shopping match up-thing, so can they;-)
Gotta be a courteous shopper however/whenever/why-ever you shop.
i say dont judge others till you judge your self. i do donate. i do get the amount i can get for what coupons i have. there is alot of ppl buying the sale items, if the selves are empty, it makes me mad when ppl think someone took everything at once. i feed my household plus 3 other familes.so i get what we will use.and the other families, i dont get mad if the selves are empty,get a raincheck and come back. or say maybe next time.things do come around again.
Michelle L. Ohio
What would Jesus do?
He would say give unto others and to not be selfish or focus on yourself because if you give to others he will provide for you.
It is my personal opinion that Melanie made it through her horrific medical ordeal and physical/mental challenges by the grace of God. He, obviously, appreciates what she does for others whether it be through donations or by helping someone through a rough day through her inspiring posts. She has given freely and he takes care of her for that.
May God continue to bless & watch over your family, Melanie!
P.S. This post is not meant to push religion or a certain belief system onto other readers. It is just my unbiased, opinion at answering the question through the eyes I’ve been given.
I think that there is nothing wrong with buying in excess as long as you either order ahead of time or wait until the end of the sale. I guess you could call it “couponer courtesy.” There are so many people that need food more than any of us do and if it takes couponing and making large orders to feed those people, then I don’t see anything wrong with it as long as you are courteous about it.
Nicole B.
Wisconsin
I think the argument that those who donate couponed goods should wait until the last day of the sale is silly.
I’m an average consumer (I really stink at couponing), but our typical grocery days are Tuesday and Wednesday, which in these parts are the last day of the sales at our two main grocery stores. There is no way for me to know if a shelf is empty because my store sucks at keeping the shelves stocked (which I believe is the real cause of empty shelves), multiple famililes bought to use for their own households, or a select few cleared the shelves to donate to charities.
Not worth my time and effort to think about and stew over.
I think preordering is the way to go. It shouldn’t be a question if it is right or wrong to use coupons to donate food. The donations are going to people who really need the food. How can we debate that? I’m sure most don’t have a newspaper subscription or access to a computer to print them out for themselves. I do agree with not totally wiping out shelves. Preordering is great for that. I’m not a huge couponer, but I totally commend those that use their skills to help others!
Jessica M. Pennsylvania
I believe everyone has the right to purchase as many items as they would like at any time as long as the store does not limit the amount. Of course, it is definitely more considerate to order ahead and I would believe, less frustrating since it would guarantee you can purchase the quantity you want.
The desire to donate to food banks and other organizations should be celebrated not chastised. In this economy with the number of needy families continuing to increase, every donation is so important and I would hate to see new rules that would make donating more difficult.
Amy V. MA
I’d love someone to answer the question about writing off donations. Because if someone is simply donating huge amounts of food so they can write it off at full value, that just annoys me. Is that even legal? Wish someone would respond.
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Carrie- I can’t answer for all states, just my own. Here we are allowed to write off a value per pound, but each state has their own laws. I suspect that’s why you aren’t seeing an answer to your question. A tax professional in your state should be able to answer that question for you.
Barbara R from CA
I have been couponing for little over 3 years now and don’t clear the shelves as I did in the beginning. However that first year…I really didn’t feel guilty clearing shelves because anyone can get a rain check. Then it happened to me and yes I had the rain check BUT the coupons expired! So now I am careful…with that being said I will be buying 12 bottle of ALL at CVS tomorrow and yes I already have 35 bottles in my stock pile!
Jeri H
Texas
I think clearing shelves is very inconsiderate. There are families that “need” those deals more than most of the people who are donating. I agree with everyone else on here about waiting until the last day. But I would much rather the donators get the food than hoarders. That is, well I will leave it at that. That is my opinion.
Christen W. CT
I totally agree with shopping to donate. Instead of giving cash to charities, or time that I can’t spare to volunteer, I donate food. It’s a smart way to give to those in need, especially since you’re giving food… beacause, unfortunately, we have no way of knowing exactly where the money goes when you write a check for a cause.
I shop and donate or just give to friends! People who use food bank do noty evn have the means to use coupons..as in buy newspapers, print coupons or internet access.
Donna L.
Virginia
Sherry L. CA
This is a tricky subject. I think will all things, moderation is the key. I can purchase products and end up donating but by no means I am I shelf clearing or purchasing more than 5 of an item, just an item I may not use but someone else will. Again, moderation and social consideration is something to keep in mind.
Iwould not clear a shelf, but thats me. If you get there the first day of the sale and get all of it, I guess I am out of luck! Its frustrating yes, but if the items are going to a good cause, then I think its OK.
I think I’m going to side with the ones who say wait to shop until the end of the sale. Or at least PREORDER. I used to feel differently about this because in my town, I was the only couponer. I would coupon and get enough for my family AND to donate and there would be plenty left on the shelf. Now, there are a few of couponers who go into the store Sunday morning and clear the shelves, strictly to donate. Our store is not great about ordering so it’s VERY frustrating when I need to go in and get ONE item and there’s nothing there on Sunday afternoons. it’s even more frustrating when I want to stock up a little and there’s nothing avaliable. I now know that if I want more than 1 or 2 of an item, I need to preorder it. (Yes, I’ve preordered 3 of something a few times.)
So, to make a long story short, I think if you know you’re going to want a lot of an item, order it, especially if it’s for donation. There are people out there that just want one or two of something and can’t get it because of the couponers clearing the shelves to donate!
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Keli N, PA
I’m all for donating food etc to the people in need and I love how people are able to use coupons to do that. But I do not like shelf clearers. I usually buy only a few items if there’s an awesome deal going on and I’m really dissappointed if I find empty shelves. I’d really love if people who buy A LOT would pre-order.
A year ago I could get all my deals on any day of the week but this past year has taught me that if I want that certain item, I have to be at the store bright and early. Thank goodness there are rainchecks!!
Johanna H. from MA
Pre-ordering is the way to go, if you are going to be purchasing large quantities. If the shelves are never impacted, there would be no problem!
-Winnie P MA
I never understand how everyone calls a “shelf clearer” how in the world do I know if 5 people came in and took all 10 of something or if 1 person came in and took all 10?!?!? That seems to be the name of the game to me….. first come first serve…… Early bird gets the worm!!! It’s never a good feeling when you stop for a product and there is none, but I sometimes think the stores should stock more and be ready for the good deals!!!!!
Ashley R. MO
Char L, MI
This is a difficult call and this probably will make me unpopular with you and your followers. I believe it leads to a bigger issue which is, is it right/ legal to trade, transfer, or sell coupons? I’m retired and use coupons to make donations to our church pantry but I don’t buy extra coupons. I will ask friends to save coupons that they do not want. I’m lucky if I get 3 or 4 of a high value coupon. It is fustrating to go to the store and see someone checking out at the store with a basket full of the item that you were hoping to snag.
Single mom here with 4 kiddos that I support myself. I coupon to make ends meet each month. I have a child with a disability that requires lots of medical care.
I struggle financially each month to provide my kids what they need. Couponing helps me tremendously. I purposely do not clear shelves but sometimes I take the last few items. I am not on public assistance and do not qualify for anything so I get no donations what so ever. Personally, other than being ethical no one can stop another person from buying items except maybe the store but even the store seldom puts limits on customers. I am disappointed sometimes when I see the empty shelves but to be honest I have gotten so many great deals I figure that other people needed the bargain more than I did. My philosophy is I really do not know anything about the other people buying items and maybe, just maybe they need it more than me. Personally, I just don’t worry about other people’s purchases because I have 4 kiddos to be concerned about more. If the shelf is empty, the shelf is empty, another deal will come along. This week alone I got free prescription glasses, 7 tops, 12 packs of gum, 2 Advil, 7 tooth pastes, and 2 flosses FREE! Did I clear the shelves, no! I just shopped here and there. Moral of story, I get free items like this all the time. I hope and am glad if others are able to do the same. We never truly know another person’s reasons for buying items. I had a bonanza week of freebies to help take care of my 4 kiddos and probably next week nothing.
If people truly donate their items, I guess my philosophy is that is really none of my business and no one can really stop them and I really don’t have time to dwell on the matter. Another deal always, always comes along.
Mavis B. Seattle, WA
Because of coupons I am able to feed my family for $100 PLUS donate to my local food bank & woman’s shelter. I don’t coupon “because I have to” but because if I didn’t I’d feel like I was throwing money down the drain.
In addition to my own site, I also write for a coupon blog where I share pictures of my weekly shopping trips. Whenever I bring in a huge haul I always make a point to let readers know I am donating most of what I bought that particular week to my local food bank, shelter or kids classroom party. But there are always readers who leave hater comments saying I should just stay home, leave food on the shelves, and to STOP DONATING.
People actually think I am responsible for THEIR store being out of a particular item.
It is crazy.I don’t understand it. And I don’t think I ever will.
If I’m planon using a lot of coupons, I pre-order. Plain and simple. I don’t clear shelves so I don’t understand what the problem is.
Donating is good. I hardly doubt by pre-ordering groceries and using multiple coupons I am hurting other shoppers.
I always say to each their own…..
I just have to say that when I follow these debates, I am often taken with how many times the word “ethical” is used in terms of couponing.
Truly, I reserve the word “ethical” for something along the lines of human rights or a similar nature.
The word “ethical” in regards to couponing is overused in my opinion.
Do the people that use the word “ethical” in regards to couponing also use the word “ethical” for other everyday events in their life……. ethical playground behavoir, ethical use of a cell phone, ethical ways to wait on line, ethical food choices…….
Go shop, get what you need, if you cant get it there will be another sale before you know it!!